on January 24, 2014, I posted in my facebook page a diagram of under a title “My Life” as provided in the figure below. This diagram was an illustration of my thinking about my life and how I framed my life after years of search and contemplation in a more abstruct way of manifestation of my inner self.
The post has generated about 112 comments during my exchange with great thinkers that I know in person and via my facebook discussion. About 10 people engaged in the discussion which has enriched my thinking about my own life.
After four years, in this early 2018, I revisted my post if there is any evolution or short comings. It is a still a refreshing reflection and what I had in my thinking has just gone deeper in each strata without changing the whole framework. I don’t know what will change in the near future but today what miight have changed is my knowledge and an approach of critical thinking. Otherwise, what I had looks in perfect order as it was before.
To share what was discussed, I am here reproducing what was written. It is one way of documenting my thinkings.
For those who are reading this, I hope you will see me more as you do right now. Enjoy it.
Discussion
Samson Maekele: Kemey zibelet CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORK dea ela ezia. Beal Berhane Aradom Sertseyonas Negash Biyan Ghebreyesus and Tuemzghi axdikoma dyom?kkkkkkk
Tesfabirhan Redie: kkkkkkkkkkkk, Sami arkey, do I need approval of my life? hhhhahahahahahaha
Samson Maekele: kkkkkkkkkkk I guess one represents each one of your big components…..I hope you don’t want me to spell it…kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Tesfabirhan REDIE: How about if they can be combined to give the whole life?
Berhane Aradom: I would agree somehow!
Samson Maekele: That’s what I was talking about….u got one (probably the philosophical ) blessing now…kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Berhane Aradom: However, philosophy is the forefather of all things. I am wondering if he can provide a clear demarcation. That thing he called religion is byproduct of human failure. Shocking to read belief is his dome. I could infer that it is because of religion.
Samson Maekele: He has forgot the most important thing….HAPINESS/JOY at the top of the pyramid..kkkkkkkkkkkk
Berhane Aradom: Sam, I am talking about the skeleton, not the flesh part. In this pyramid, the flesh part, such as happiness, joy and others, have no place.I would love to put it otherwise.
Samson Maekele: I can see ur point
Tesfabirhan REDIE: I think happines is within my belief. If I trust, I love, what is more left to be showered by happiness?
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Brhin, I tried to bring my phillosophy above my belief, I failed. But, it came above religion.
And in some years of my life I tried to remove bliefs and religion. But I found myself ……………….., you want me to say it? let me philosophize on my philosophy. kkkkkkkk
Berhane Aradom: Tesfie, repudiate all. gather courage..if religion or belief were important or meant for you, you would have born with them.
Tesfabirhan REDIE: I did Brhin and I formatted my self if really they were important to me. In fact, neither I searched my belief nor did I journeyed from one religion to another. My belief was there, Alpfa-Omega, but I got a chance to choose religion. And this makes my philosophy to be above my religion.
Berhane Aradom: you are enough. what else do you want?
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Brhane, did I say I want something? All is within me. I am the existing Tesfie!
Berhane Aradom: yah, you wrote it. All these stuffs on the pyramid are not part of you…
Tesfabirhan REDIE: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, Brhin, Master of masters!
Berhane Aradom: yekeniyelna, ab hagos yimeles.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Selemawit Tesfamariam: Er there relatives with Abraham Maslovs pyramid?
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Sister Selamawit, It is just my curiosity to put my life in a conceptual form, I don’t know Abraham Maslovs pyramid, but, if it happened to be similar, I may just be stunned of surprise. I believe on thinking coincidence. And this happened a lot in history. When two people put their ideas of more in a similar way. But, this is purely my life. I respect Intellectual property. No plagiarism!
Biyan Ghebreyesus: kkkkkkkkk if you frame with assumption said by socrates ‘I will never fear or avoid a possible good rather than a certain evil’.i do appreciate you so much……………kkkkkkkkkkkkk
Biyan Ghebreyesus: Berhan enqa metseahkha
Tesfabirhan REDIE: hawna Biyan, Just ideas came in last night, in fact, late night, around 00-01 AM, and I put it like what you can see.
Socrates’wisdom is all but unfortunately, I did not come across the one that you said to frame my life. It is just my life and my soul ordered, my spirit sent the message and my body wrote it. That is all! But, it is good that I came through two great figures of modern thinking, Socrates and Abraham. I am not different, I am a human being and is obvious to think like other human being. No exception with me.
Abiel Zereslasie: Wow Tesfie you need to support it with an article or something like that you know to make it edible! Though it is not as Selemawit said but the hierarchy starts with some similarity to Abraham Masllow’s hierarchy of need’s! And i need to understand if religion is not the product of philosophy as to your pyramid!
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Sertse hawey, do you want to compartmentalize me? I am talking about the whole. And I see nothing is complex here, reading my whole life in a single page is such a degree that shows how my life is so simple. I could have finished pages and pages, may be you can read “The Republica” of Pulato. Though Pulato, the student of Socrates, tried to compile his teachers way of teaching, the dialogue, still people need to dig on to get what is in the book.
My natural science background helped to simplify into a simple model. That is all.
Unlike what hawna Abiel Zere tried to say it, I would rather like just to put it like this, though I appreciate his belief on me that I can do it.
Today, life should be able to be read in one page of a FB upon a click> evolution. I respect the technological evolution and its impact on shaping today’s and future generation.
Abiel Zereslasie: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk tesie jigna! If that’s so, let me know if there is any tesfe or abiel afterall!
Tesfabirhan REDIE: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, I am sure about the existence of tesfie, but I am not sure about Abiel.
Misgina Zeray: Tesfie – arkey, I am wondering where your conscience, consciousness and awareness would be as an individual? Awareness is an ocean of its own depth that lets us realize with the power of now and then. We live in now, we experience it and then it disappears to the usual cosmos. I like the way you try to posture “being you” . It is a very intensive and long journey but without awareness, it is just another thinking. When someone starts thinking, it is not more thinking if it stays longer as it becomes thinking of thinking.
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Bro. Misgie, it is to no where. It is always there. And nothing more is about being aware than to join your body, spirit and your soul together. If you come according to Biblical approach, or the Christian doctrine, that is equivalent to trinity, and as it is said, human being is created by this unity.
If one is lost from the other, as Budha said it, suffering starts. To stop suffering we need to combine all this and all is in my life. hahahahahhahaahhahhaahahah
Misgina Zeray: nah nah Tesfie arkey! give me a minute will get over u!
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Welcome brother.
Ermi Tuemuzghi: ahahahahahhah good job!tesfie! but it feels smting very important is missing Misgates B Sunday has mentioned consciousness ,…and what is the difference between soul and spirit …also u didnt tell us how u play with pyramid and also u made ur life look fixed!…….and i have heard life is not in the lines, but between the lines and i couldnt see that! pls show me ahahahah
Tesfabirhan REDIE: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, hawTuem, no lines in between and no fixed norms. It is just my life. All are in one, I don’t see any difference and as Samson, no scaling, just it the way my life works. All are in one. And concerning consciousness, it is clear along the level of importance on how the three parts are working. hahahhahahahahhahahahahaahhaha
By the way, awareness, consciousness and related are works of the mind and are in psychology which is in the social science stream, far from my philosophy.
Samson Maekele: I can see the pyramid is build through your engineering point of view…kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Abraham Maslow built it through the pscho-social point of view. But they are more or less similar….For example: they both look like the Pyramid of , Egypt….kkkkkkkkk Well to come to the point yours is a little bit complicated. It has many lines probably they could be the scale measuring the degree or proportion of each component. ALoka endo hade kilo philosophy, frki kilo religion, etc. kkkkkkkkkkk
By the way, Tesfie you remind me a friend Henok Tsegazeab Tewolde I guess it was in 2007, he drafted a 5 year plan. I guess by now he made them happen.
Abdul Karim: Philosopher! What about the 3rd side and bottom side of this beautiful Prism……..
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Bro. Abdul Karim Khan Jadoon the owner of philosophy, always great and searching for wisdom. I did not see anyone saying on that side.
Adbul Karim: Is there no place for LOVE in it?? Y?
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Not only a place, but whole I put is LOVE. But, just to make it clear, LOVE is within my beliefs and is the great source of my third dimension. if there is no LOVE, there is no WISDOM, because, wisdom is from HEART and a good heart is always conquered by LOVE and it pumps LOVE to all parts of my LIFE.
I remember your life expression still Bro. Abdul Karim Khan Jadoonyou told me while we had the tour in the ROCK Forest!
Abdul Karim: In Love i born, in lov i live , in love i Die….
Berhane Aradom: many have said many things. You may want to work now to the second edition.
Ermi Tuemuzghi: haw tesfie ferihnaka ahahahahhha nway if u r happy with the pyramid well and good , enjoy, but in case if u thinking of reconstruction i will be there to tell u a few jokes ahahahah! and regarding consciousness , i see it differently! to me its beyond psychology!
Tesfabirhan REDIE: hahahahahahahahhahahahahaha, is it because I talk about my life? That is why people do not talk about their life.
And welcome, I am ready always changing my life journey. Nothing is fixed. Go ahead. I want to update and upgrade my life. I believe on evolution of personal life.
Tuem and Brhin, give me some of enlightening jokes. Jokes are feed of the soul.
Abiel Zereslasie: Berhane Aradom i think you are trying to halt this interesting discussion, stop that and let crazy man collect as much comments as he can from this conversation! And tesfe am looking for a word from you on the case of religion! Isn’t religion a product of philosophy after all isn’t it a political organization. kkkkkkkkkkk
Tesfabirhan REDIE: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk,
Abiel Zere, Religion is none of what you mentioned. Religion is result of politics. When you do not agree with one group or individual, you create your own group and regulations, and this is religion. It is like political parties, but her we have belief parties.
And belief could be because of fear, trust, love, hope or something related.
And for me, belief is LOVE. And take care, I am not saying I believe on LOVE, just belief = Love
Ermi Tuemuzghi: ahahahahh u called it my life and if u r fully convinced that that is ur life , i didnt want to touch it , perke to destroy it will be to destroy you! ahahahhaha nway now that we got the green light ..i will start surgery.
to start with ……if u can say my life ..u r not the life described .. u r the owner of the life ..if u can say my belief..u cant be the belief coz u r the owner of the belief ….to anything to say mine ,u have to be the possessor!…r we together so far?
Samson Maekele: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk I see the defence of the proposal…Tesfie I think u have proceeded from the proposal to actual thesis….but mind the minor suggestions..kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Yes we are Tuem, go ahead.
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, Samson yah, that is a simple journey to start anything. I am not to defence here. Just to listen.
All you are talking is to my shadow, and what I put is my shadow. and i put it is my wisdom. All this is given in the triangle.
Ermi Tuemuzghi: to me belief is a believed idea on something that we dont know? can also expressed as to believe the non-existent as existing ….u see the sun..thus u know its there, that is to say u dont believe that there is a sun,coz that is ur experience , but in beleive , its not ur experience but others have told you their experinece/whatsoever and u beleived it as existent ….green or red
Tesfabirhan REDIE: yes I got you. Tuem.
To be clear I mentioned in my statement, when I say belief, belief = LOVE.
and in fact in the Bible it is written as GOD is LOVE. Lets not stick to the predefined perception. I am free like a white cloud 9Osho used to say),
For me, I was born free, Babtised as an Orthodox, grew-up in an Ortodox family, got educated during my early days in the catholic church, and conquered my blood veins, Then I tried to be more Orthodox, but got conflict with the doctrine I got during my childhood, then, I washed them with spiritual philosophy and remained detached from all, and then after I joined the catholic community.
I am a catholic by religion, a free thinker in my ways, and have a strong belief on LOVE. And according to the bible, God is nothing but LOVE. And on this LOVE, I trust, I got the truth and I put hope on all my life.
Ermi Tuemuzghi: have u ever experienced Love?
Tesfabirhan REDIE: kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, what kind of love do you want to tell you from my all experience?
Ermi Tuemuzghi: ahahahahah tesfie ..am talking to you …we r not speaking about bile or religion , we will come to it later .
there is only one Love to me ….and to u?….and do u know Love or u believe in love ?
Tesfabirhan REDIE: This is tesfie whom you are talking about, kkkkkkkkkkkkk and is talkig you. But you are getting the shadow, not him. Even what I write is the shadow of Tesfie.
hahahhahahahahahahahha
Ermi Tuemuzghi: to me everything ur belief,religion, philosophy…….is a shadow only u ,who is the owner of all this is real….that its also me!.
Tesfabirhan REDIE: kkekekekkekekekekekke, This all are tools to the know-how. I came naked and I will leave naked. But do not ask me where to go. I am no where to go as I came from no where.
Tesfie is speaking through me, in fact, the name Tesfie does not exist. It is just a name. But the one, whom you are saying Tesfie and I say I am tesfie is there. If you want to visit him, first visit yourself. kekekkekekekkekkekekekkek
Ermi Tuemuzghi: ur belief will tell u where to go,dont worry! …we r one as long as owner is concerned , but our shadows are different ahhahah
Tesfabirhan REDIE: you got the point. we are one, just our shadows differ.
Ermi Tuemuzghi: well tes! it seemed to me we had a good start lol in disecting all, to make our mirrors clean so that we can reflect each other …but now we have jumped in to the conclusion ahahahha
Tesfabirhan REDIE: and as far as my belief where to go, kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, Is there any direction for LOVE?, I think LOVE is a scalar quantity, not a vector.
Ermi Tuemuzghi: have a good time and thanks for sharing ur experience …i will try to touch all the points we havnt tpuched so far
belief is an idea, if u think love is a belief , u mean love is an idea ….
Tesfabirhan REDIE: great and waiting your further bisection. Always great Tuem. Have a nice dream.
hahahahhahahahahaha. you are saying it, I did not say. It is the common definition that you have probabily set in your mind is pre-occupied. Empty your self and come to me.
Das Hawya: Brother I believe trying to put ur life in such manner could be such a hectic job ..and may even lose the taste of what you want to describe ( with all due respect).. Life is a little bit complicated and as far as I am concerned more shaped with the interaction you do with people and your environment. So I don’t see here your life being shaped or evolving with any thing related to family ,friendship,Love (of different kind) ,sex,failure….. I May be totally out of the topic ,but normally philosophy just explain to us what we are passing through in a words and sentences we can really understand easily but nothing more ..its the trials ,the failures,the victories ,the tears and joys that we pass through that shape our life and makes us who we are now.I believe Tes(you) is a product of all the ups and downs he passed through in life not the product of the books not solely he read …. I like what you did here but it doesn’t seem like a life of a person but some science project ( with all due respect and I can be little bit rude on my words 
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Tesfabirhan REDIE: Das Hawya thank you for your kind compliments. No worries, and in fact your points made me to come across again.
But, I call all the ups and downs in life as LIFE journey. If you say Tes is the product of this experiences of life journey, then, I am already done. But I am not done!
And all you mentioned is in my life in which I am walking about and I am walking along. I am not the product of this, but I am evolving with them. In chemistry, a product that you get at the end. But, still I am. Only your statement will have a full meaning when my physical body passes away and people say TES was this and that.
With all due respect and thank you.
Berhane Aradom: I am wondering if you can consider all the comments. In my opinion, discard them irrespective of their importance and continue to live individually. I know deep down, no one has ever met you. You are alone.
Das Hawya: Good point Tes ..I gat what u mean. Berhane Aradomcant he listen and then take ideas he feels are worth taking and avoid the others ? I think two heads are better than one and also its not about how he should live that we are talking..its how he prepared the charts to show Life.so its pure the idea of life and not specific about his life that we are talking ..Aymeslekan Brhin ?
Tesfabirhan REDIE: in some of your comments, u said life is tbe interaction between people and environ people and environment i think both are part of the sciences, if we consider them like unpublished books.
And regarding philosophy, I am not talking on the written or the inherited ones. These are now as social sciences. Rather I am talking on my own philosophy, the philosophy that helps me to open my journey, that I search and watch Tesfie.
Brhin, I hope I will come up with second edition of an edited version, not with second edition of my life. But, I will edit the one that I have put, but, for second edition of my life, where it may add or delete some may or may not be available.
We will all see how Tesfie will evolve. And, if it happened to be end, hope you will publish the life of Tesfie as is available in my shadow.
Samson, it is great that you mentioned Dr. Fessehaye. Hope you guys to write something about him. He was such a great person that his students should put him still alive. I did not gget a chance to see him physically, but I have many good image on his image that was told by his students. I call then Samson, Brhin, Gashu, Teame and many more to cooperate and write something, even a page each about him.
Samson Maekele: Tesfie..I like the conversation with Das Hawya. You reminded me one point that I discussed it in 2000 with Dr. Fesseha Haile. WHAT IS LIFE? Tesfie bro..it is not easy to explain life in a sense of chemical reaction as a fixed byproduct of things. I guess the product of chemical reaction can be get at the final and is final as you said, but life is always in motion (physics kemey..?????????kkkkk). Then finally your byproduct will come at the cemetery and afterwords (LIKE MANDELA….may be our kids will see an Oscar winner film..THE GREAT TESFIE….aresti kemey. ksab hiji aytetahzetin ala). N Lidia Lydia Hagos entehatetkaya wun xubuk byproduct kitnegreka eya..kkkkkLet me come to my point…..first what is life for you all guys? Then take some from Tesfie framework …..nkulu ziakil eyu serihu zelo mesleni…nihade zibelkayo eyu negeru…kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Tesfabirhan REDIE: What a beaufiful mor.ing is this. Samson Maekele it is so blessed morning to uplift my way. Today I have a field visit in wine factories, but your words are more than that. Welela weyni zitiem kalatkum.
Hope I will see Lydia here. She is such a beautiful lady to chat with.
Berhane Aradom: Tesfie, has to take day off, and sit for a while on the river banks. He is neither this nor that.
Tesfabirhan Aradom: When you live, living is loike an AC, alternative current, not a DC. Even this starts when the sperm starts the journey to reach the egg. And after the journey follows the same way. And this is the Ups and downs.
Oprah said all she went through her life is with ups and downs, but, she considers them as lessons. Sorry if said it differently.
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Brhin, I love you. Your call to Tesfie and stay as HE. Brhin has to be awarded with 10 years old bottle of French Red Wine and an Italian formagio, Parmagiano Reggano and an italian HAM Prosciutto.
Tesfie may go to silence, but I am calling him to say after serving him some Budhist meditiation music.
Ermi Tuemuzghi: bye tesfie! brhin may i join you for the wine!lol
Tesfabirhan REDIE: hhhhhhhhhhhh, I have for you too Tuem, cheese from the Alps Mountain. And wine, from Italy, Milano
Ermi Tuemuzghi: now we r speaking real business lol
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Afare zeybilu jjust for Love
Lydia Hagos: esfabirhan %$#@!, I could not read all the comments, but I did not need to, your ONE WORLD PYRAMID!!, said it ALL!!, we told you to stay away from Brew… You said, “THE ONE & ONLY ONE THAT I BELIEVE IN!” then you called him “Brhin Master of Master!” Lord help us!. You are worshiping him and his Philosophy, and you don’t even know it!!! All you pyramid, talks about is I, My, Me,. Where is Jesus in All this??? We need to help our brother, guys, meeting without Brew needed urgently!!! THIS IS CRAZY lol!!!!
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Kkkkkkkkk Lidu shikor, I think Jesus according to Catholics is God. Then do you want me to mention His name? Open your eyes please. Lolllllll
Hahhhhhh, does saying Master of masters will make me a worshiper? Come on lLidu, come to this world. We need you. Watch please what you are writing. Yes Brhin is Master of masters. Do not reject, the more you reject, the more you will be suffering.
That is what I said to Brhin, not you and I did not asked you to approve it and give it a certificate. Only Brhin knows who exactly he is, but, to say, I have the right. Just consider as I said to Lidu shikor. Kkkkkkkkk,
And for the pyramid, you are really now mess with such shapes. I pray for you to come unto you and stop having such illuaioned mind.
Sorry if I am so direct. Lidu shikor = Brhin master of masters. Just it differs on how you perceive it.
Lydia Hagos: Tes, Luke 9:26 “For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels.”
Matthew 10:33 “But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.”
Do Not Allow Yourselves To Be Caught Off Guard
Children of My Divine Heart,
Hear Me. I Am. I Am the Alpha and the Omega. I Am the Great I Am. Open your hearts. Do not delay. I desire to abide in you. Open your hearts to Me. Surrender. Give Me permission to transform you into instruments most pure. Abandon the ways of the world. Do not be duped. Satan has plans to destroy you. Do not allow yourselves to be caught off guard. Pray for discernment. Pray each day. Be faithful to this mandate. Be generous with your prayers. Bless others in this fashion. Do not fear events foretold for I will protect My own. I will provide all things for you. I will send manna from the sky, and feed you as I did your ancestors. Trust in Me. Do not let your hearts be troubled. Refuse the mark of the Beast. Do not give in to fear. Walk in faith. You must grow in faith, and prepare for what is to come. Keep My commandments, and love as never before. I count on you. I love you with an everlasting love. My blessing is yours to use. Bless others through it.
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Reallt now you are lost Lidu. Brhin is not in my pyramid. I can see how are reading the Bible and the wolrd now.
Lydia Hagos: Tes, What i believe and what i am, reflects the teaching of the Bible, it becomes my nourishment, it becomes who I really am. So what you say, and believe is part of your pyramid that is who you claim to be. You are coming to my point, you don’t need this Pyramid, and you are a child of God, the true living God, what more can you ask for other than Jesus and His Holly words, the Bible. Can we agree to that, let me get Amen!!!
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Kkkkkkkk, Amen!
Das Hawya: Tesfabirhan eza mehazakum Lydia Hagos bhaki zerebia equa kurub kbd eluni (axikuni lol) gn eti brta’ean ab etiamno neger zelewa authoritative akaydan bah keyebeleni ayterefen .. Ezi tk btk azerarbakis tefetiyuni …kemaki hasaben zgelxa dekenestyo ahwat yebzhalna !
Tesfabirhan REDIE: You said it Das Hawya arkey. She is so bold in her approach, but, we accept her as she is. Alema beynu eyu, gena mewedaeta eyu kitibil, negative trha kitdeli tsehay kiarba eyu enber eti hakis kab haku ayhalifin eyu.
But still we well come her always and her rigid directional approach helps us to broaden our level of understanding for the diversity we have
Samson Maekele: Lydia Hagos I like your ideas. I can see the defence is tight now. However, we need a conceptual framework even to worship God. And no worry, God is always the master of masters even for Brhin….though some elements like religion and pastors/popes should be …….
Berhane Aradom: Lydu is hypnotizing the poor fellow tesfie. The word God is not God…I suspect that she is acting out of conditioned childhood lessons. One way or the other way, the whole world’s population is hypnotized by wrong teachings. The church is build up on the lowercase god. God is still out of human experience for man is crunching kolotutuko terefmeref. Man at this stage especially those pastors are simply modified form of rodents.
Tesfabirhan REDIE: Kkkkkkk, haki Brhin arkey. People like Lidu tried and r still to hyponize the poor Tesfie. Luckily He is far from such, do not worry.
Berhane Aradom: Very good Tesfie, but i want to undo lydia
Tesfabirhan Redie: Better to format, now she is already formated, just you need window 2035. lol
Das Hawya: Samson Maekele U said we need a conceptual frame work to worship God ?..but u know religion is based on faith on faith of things that u never seen and understanding of things that could not be proved with our calculations.Thats the base almost all faiths/religions are made and the frame work for u will be just believe..just believe. Some people say prove to me God exists ..but they forget that they cant also proove God doesnt exist.what I want to say is I read some one also kind of critisizing pastors ..i dont think thats a good idea buddy.. U belive in what ever u belive but accept that others can also belive in other stuff and respect.I am sorry i drifted away from the topic Tes brought scuza !
Tesfabirhan Redie: Bro. Das believe is above everything and as in my life.
And regarding critism, it is a thought provoking. Just take it easy and if serious go ahead, we can discuss. All here love to bissect things and see something within it. Be easy here, you will see diversified ideas and this is tbe beauty we have. Hope you will be with such colored lovely people and learn through tolerance and open discussion.
Wed Hmrarib: what paradoxial illustration is this ? wisdom to be though by science when is this come from ,hmmmm, and ur irrational faith teachs u trust ,love and TRUTH,HAHAAH,U FRAMED UR LIFE IN VERY DOCTRINATED THINGS , I AM SO AMUZING AT WHAT U WANA TO SAY BUT FOR SURE THIS IS THE OUT COME OF THE INTERNAL MIND CHATTERING !!! TRY TO ADRESS UR MIND AND BE SILENT IN ALL UR WAYS !!! BE FREE FROM ALL DOCTRINES AND LEAD UR FREE LIFE , AND U WERE SAYING I LOVE OSHO ,HAHAHAHAHAH STAY WITH UR INTERNAL TURMOIL!!!go and see the lectures of pro, lawrence krauss to know what secince teaches about reality and truth !!!
Samson Maekele: Das Hawya, from your comments towards me, I got two things. 1. Conceptual framework to worship God. But I don’t got your point bc I have both the question and answer in you statement. 2 Criticizing pastors…it is not out of my disrespect to pastors but it is because of their nonsense actions…I am going to wait your comment on this video,,,https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=588088154615298…
These two extremes converged at one once the Apartheid system was abolished and Mandela triumphed after his long quest to complete South African emancipation. Since then, South Africa became the hub of tolerance and human dignity.
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